Ohio House Bill 62

"TheJWT" (thejwt)
03/07/2019 at 19:40 • Filed to: None

If it passes (which it looks like it will), and more importantly this section stays in, it will be a rare example of Ohio doing something right.

DISCUSSION (35)

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > TheJWT
03/07/2019 at 21:13

Can you all change your party plates while you’re at it? They look almost exactly like the standard NM plate (intermittently used since the 30s and continuously in use since the 60s ). I’d hate to think anytime someone from Ohio see’s a car from NM and thinks they’re automatically a drunk.

ranwhenparked > TheJWT
03/07/2019 at 21:20

Also, isn’t there some right to repair law for appliances and electronics being considered there, or am I thinking of another state?

facw > TheJWT
03/07/2019 at 21:22

I wonder how often the front plate is used to identify the vehicle. I don’t like making it harder to catch criminals or even just toll evaders because people think front plates look ugly.

Fuckkinja > TheJWT
03/07/2019 at 21:22

Here in MI they want an $.45 increase in fuel tax. They last time the tax got raised the roads did not get fixed. The state express ways have always been properly maintained. The issue is county and city roads. The tax money doesn’t trickle down to the local roads in front of our houses.

TheJWT > ranwhenparked
03/07/2019 at 21:23

If there is I haven’t heard of it. I’ve only heard about this bill because the main provision is raising our gas tax to fix our dogshit roads and mass transit (which I am also 1000% in favor of)

TheJWT > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
03/07/2019 at 21:23

I don’t know if we still use those... I rarely see them anymore

ranwhenparked > TheJWT
03/07/2019 at 21:25

As long as they actually use it for that. IIRC, Pennsylvania raised theirs to the highest gas tax in the country for the same reason, but nearly all of it got redirected to the s tate p olice (and other non-road maintenance agencies) and their roads are still total crap.

for Michigan > TheJWT
03/07/2019 at 21:25

Oh yes please! I'd love to get the front plate off my 1-series.

for Michigan > TheJWT
03/07/2019 at 21:26

I see them regularly. Didn't know it was a thing until I moved to Ohio.

TheJWT > Fuckkinja
03/07/2019 at 21:26

Jeez that’s a lot... Our Governor wanted 0 .18, but there was pushback and now it’s 0 . 10. I’d even be happy with 18 cents though; Cleveland’s infrastructure is approaching third world status and the RTA, which I take to work everyday, is an underfunded mess.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > ranwhenparked
03/07/2019 at 21:28

Pennsylvania could have the entire DoD budget for roads and they would still be crap. Last year I went back to visit and they were still working on a stretch they started when I was in high school. I’m 34.

TheJWT > for Michigan
03/07/2019 at 21:32

Huh weird... What county are you in? I can’t tell you the last time I saw one in Cuyahoga

TheJWT > facw
03/07/2019 at 21:32

I feel like some cities will still want drivers to have both... That’s kind of the way it is now. If this passes though my front plate is coming off ASAP

TheJWT > ranwhenparked
03/07/2019 at 21:34

True; Ohio’s government fucking up the best of situations is pretty much an inevitability

facw > TheJWT
03/07/2019 at 21:56

I really don’t think of them as any great burden. If it looks bad on a modern, I think you’ve mostly got to put that on the manufacturers, who do after all know that the vast majority or cars will be wearing a front plate.

Obviously if we can show that there’s little benefit, then removing the redundancy is good, but my initial reaction is to stay with the current system if we don’t have that data (given that some states are already one plate, I would think some sort of comparison should be possible).

bhtooefr > facw
03/07/2019 at 22:08

Also, AFAIK, 194 countries get along with front plates, why do a few US states have to be special snowflakes?

For that matter, I’d be surprised if the Ohio Highway Patrol hasn’t lobbied against this - as I understand, front plates give a good target to hit for radar...

bhtooefr > Fuckkinja
03/07/2019 at 22:10

Gas should be more expensive anyway to discourage its consumption, so...

And, when was the last time it was raised? How much was it raised by? How much deferred maintenance in other places was caught up on? Just because your road didn’t get fixed doesn’t mean that the money wasn’t put to good use.

Maxima Speed > TheJWT
03/07/2019 at 22:54

Man t hat would be awesome. Too bad I already have the holes in t he bumper.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > TheJWT
03/07/2019 at 23:09

Which is exactly how you know they’re going to fuck it up .

Oh wait. They already fucking did. Because it’s fucking Ohio.

Read the whole thing if you can stomach it. It’s FOUR HUNDRED AND TEN PAGES LONG .

Let’s see... what other complete bullshit did these election cheating pieces of shit wedge in? Let’s see... they legalized speed cameras again and made it harder to contest their bullshit (4511.093), they turned fuel taxes into a personal piggybank, cut road funding, AND increased the taxes to 48 cents a gallon (page 308,) took away all fuel tax refunds from mass transit just to fuck them over (page 314,) while increasing them for others (next page,) and I seriously can’t read any more of this shit without putting a fucking axe into somebody’s skull.

But hey! Who cares if they’re completely fucking up the state and fucking over everyone who still lives in it? They sure as fuck don’t.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > TheJWT
03/07/2019 at 23:10

Good news!

Fuel taxes are being increased to forty-eight cents a gallon and RTA’s fuel tax refunds are being taken away permanently, effective immediately!

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > ranwhenparked
03/07/2019 at 23:13

Ohio is redirecting as much as they feel like into personal piggybanks by using tricky wording to make people think more money is going into the road funds. It’s not. It’s less.

Fuck all of the pieces of shit that cheated their way into the state house. (That would be all of them .)

Fuckkinja > bhtooefr
03/07/2019 at 23:39

2016 MI raised the gas tax and registration fees. The full use of the tax money for roads to start in 2021. We are already 5th highest in the US. Another $.45 more is not going to make things any different because the state will keep spending the money on other things.

pip bip - choose Corrour > TheJWT
03/08/2019 at 04:41

all cars need two plates

for Michigan > TheJWT
03/08/2019 at 06:06

Hancock.

There’s actually Chevy Sonic with those plates I see on my commute every morning. It's always parked in front of a garage with several light beer signs prominently displayed on the exterior.

TrickJos > TheJWT
03/08/2019 at 06:09

This is good news. I haven’t had a front plate on my Camaro for years and it would be nice to not worry about getting a ticket for it. The only bummer is my GTI already has the front plate bracket screwed into the bumper. I’m not sure what I would do about that.

TheJWT > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
03/08/2019 at 07:45

Ahh, now it makes more sense.

Ah well, guess I’ll just move up my moving out of Ohio date by a few months

foghat1981 > TheJWT
03/08/2019 at 08:07

Howdy to the other NE Ohioans.

Cleveland’s infrastructure is terrible and only getting worse. Columbus seems to get out-sized funding for all their new stuff. Which makes sense to a degree, but shouldn’t be at expense of Cleveland.

Optimistic for front plate removal, but disappointed to see all the other stuff that was pointed out as buried in there.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > TheJWT
03/08/2019 at 08:46

Yeah, I’m about at that point as well. It’s getting to the point where even Mid-Ohio and Nelson’s Ledges are not worth this shit. Nevermind the blatant election cheating, and the other toxic and unconstitutional bullshit they’re planning to pull. Which of course, our tax dollars will be paying for, again.

TheJWT > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
03/08/2019 at 20:41

I was so excited to move back to Cleveland after 5 years at school in NY, but yeah, the magic has almost all but completely worn off. There’s a lot I like in Cleveland but the state government seems hellbent on turning it into thunderdome, and it seems like a good number of the people here have simply just embraced the mediocrity.

But it’s also cheap as hell to live here, so I ’ll probably stick around until I save up enough to buy my NSX and then bounce the fuck out, like everyone else does (sans NSX)

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > TheJWT
03/08/2019 at 21:45

That’s because there is no state government, just a bunch of terrorists that got there by rigging and cheating elections. And the meth heads and terrorists are moving into the county too.

I’ve lived here years and years and years. Never before shit went completely off the rails did I see Ohio plated cars with Confederate flags. Much less a brodozer advertising his wedding photography business... next to an SS (not the Chevy type) emblem, swastika, and ‘AtomWaffen’ sticker.

TheJWT > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
03/08/2019 at 21:52

Maybe he specializes in period weddings?...

T hat’s fucked up though; I had enough of that shit when I used to work in M entor. I try not to leave the outerbelt anymore

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > TheJWT
03/08/2019 at 22:14

Yeah, it’s not getting any better either. Nothing like overhearing cops, in uniform, saying they wish Obama would come to town so they could shoot him. Using racial slurs.

Yeaaaaaaaaah.

And this is not exactly the shitty part of town either. Nor was it particularly racist before. All the new squad cars are ‘fuck you, I’m the law’ black, the police department shares racist ‘blue lives matter’ crap on their failbook, and there’s now two facebook groups (one said “no political stuff!!” so the MAGA-heads made their own) with the same racist memes.

TheJWT > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
03/08/2019 at 22:50

I grew up in Strongsville and there were literal protests when Obama came to give a speech...

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > TheJWT
03/08/2019 at 23:38

Ayup. I’m over in Berea. And it has gotten really bad. In fucking Berea.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
04/17/2019 at 21:03

I like front plates sorry not sorry